Why Do Fans Still Defend Josh Trank?


Why are fans still defending Josh Trank?

Fantastic Four (2015) has come out and is considered one of the worst superhero films ever… again. I wish I could say I’m surprised but I’ve been saying it looked terrible from the first couple of released set photos. Most of the time this would all fall on the director, and a lot of the information seems to suggest that’s the case here, but online it really seems to depend who you ask. It is fascinating how much some people want to defend Director Josh Trank. “He’s the next David Fincher, this is just his “Alien 3.” So my main question would be why? And more importantly, why this filmmaker? Why do people want to defend Josh Trank?



I mean he’s made one other movie (“Chronicle”) which had fairly positive reviews but that hardly seems like enough reason to think he MUST be the next big thing. Having seen the film myself I thought it was okay but I can see how for some it seemed to promise real potential. First of all, it’s a found footage movie. I personally don’t hate the style like some people do but I do agree 90% of the time that it’s just a way to hide how low budget the film is and most would be better if told in a normal style. “Chronicle” was that for me but the makers did manage to come up with a clever idea to allow for a more cinematic look. Because the characters gain telekinesis powers and thus are able to have the camera hover around them in the 3rd person. Regardless of how much you may hate the film, you have to admit that’s kinda clever even though some shots were very unclear as to where the footage was coming from. However, again speaking for myself, it was undone by the same problems of before like the old “why are you still filming this?!!!!” I think I even yelled that out at the end with the girlfriend character and her own camera. I could see Dane DeHaan‘s character doing that but the entire time I couldn’t figure out what her deal was. Speaking of which, telling the story from the villain’s perspective was another interesting thing with the film. Although I’m not sure why I wasn’t as invested in his journey. So that was “Chronicle” in a nutshell for me. Some clever ideas but not executed as well as they could have been. But that was the first film of Director Josh Trank’s and it’s not a terrible first outing. Like I said, earlier the film did get a number of very good reviews. Maybe others were so focused on the potential and that overwhelmed most of the film’s shortcomings or maybe something about the film just spoke to a lot of people. I remember there were critics predicting that Trank would be offered the directing job to all of the big comic book movies in development and they were all in favor of it. Boy, how things change.

I forced myself to watch “Fant4stic” as the internet’s been calling it and it was just a bad as I thought it would be. The main problem I had with it was that it was so clear that the filmmakers didn’t get the property they were adapting. In a long in-depth interview with Kevin Smith for his podcast, “Fatman on Batman,” Josh Trank repeatedly says he worked with writers who love all of the Fantastic Four lore from the comics to help him never get too far away from the core concept. It was hard for me not to run my car off the road while listening to that. In some ways you can say Fox studios are to blame. They did indeed green-lit the film after hearing Josh Trank say something like, “I wanna do a gritty version of the Fantastic Four, my influences are David Cronenberg body horror films.” Fox’s reaction should have been, “okay, clearly you’re not the right fit for this project,” and parted ways then and there. But when you have a film that needs to be made before you lose the rights, then maybe you really don’t care about an obviously bad idea for an adaptation or maybe you are so desperate to “discover” new talent that you miss the warning signs. This is of course before taking account of all the on the set stories of Josh Trank being a horrible director to work with, unable to communicate his ideas to the cast and crew (i.e. job #1 as a director), being belligerent to the actors, destroying the house rented for him by the studio, etc. Some might point out that there aren’t any stories like this on the making of “Chronicle” but remember that film was a low-budget project made mostly in South Africa and far away from big studios. Low budget filmmaking is very different than studio filmmaking and all of this stinks of someone who was not ready for all of the added pressure of directing for a major studio.


Josh Trank is said to be horrible to work with

So as far as the David Fincher comparison goes, let’s examine it. For those who don’t know, legendary filmmaker David Fincher started his career in music videos before getting to direct “Alien 3” and the resulting film is not highly thought of. Being completely honest there are some parallels. Fox studios was once again trying to rush out a film and quality be damned. There was a lot of drama behind the scenes and some reported studio interference. As a result Fincher had to essentially start over again with “Se7en” and he quickly became known as one of our best living directors. However, even after all these years there are no stories of Fincher sucking at his job as a director. It’s often remarked on how well he did his job despite all the hurdles. Problems aside he still did his job and everyone could see he was professional. He didn’t even talk much about the experience until many years later (unlike a “certain” filmmaker tweeting about a certain film we’ve been talking about). We don’t know what all the reasons are for Josh Trank being let go from directing one of the “Star Wars” spinoff films but it’s not a good sign. This brings us to the original question, “why are so many people still standing by Josh Trank?” After all of this reflecting and watching two movies (that I was in no hurry to watch on my own) I’m still not sure. The internet does love underdog stories and we all get disappointed to hear of studio meddling getting in the way of an artist’s vision. However, as filmmakers that’s just a fact about the business. It happens, some rise above it, some don’t, and it’s not always contingent on talent. Again, maybe the fans defending Trank just can’t give up on the potential talent they saw in “Chronicle.” Some may accuse me of doing the same with M. Night Shyamalan but even if you LOVED “Chronicle,” that was still just ONE movie. Shyamalan had anywhere from 3 to 4 generally considered good movies before he took a huge dip in quality. He showed that even if his earlier films were flukes then he had some amazing luck in the beginning. After just “Fant4stic,” Josh Trank hasn’t shown any hints of more potential. Maybe filming in the found footage style really did do its job and hide its problems so well people projected greatness on its director.

So could I be wrong and years from now Josh Trank’s next film will prove this whole article was a waste of time? Sure, it’s possible and it will take years because after the tweet, the behind the scene stories, and the simple awfulness of “Fant4stic,” it will take years for him to get someone else to trust him to make a movie. I’m sure they’ll downplay his involvement in the advertising. But he’s got one film people liked and one film people HATED, and “Fant4stic” is not something people are going to forget or forgive anytime soon. Although there is a “theory” (in quotations for the number of holes in said theory) that Josh Trank intentionally made “Fant4stic” so bad that Marvel/Disney could get the film rights back. And if that’s the case, then I love him, haha.

Do you stand by Josh Trank?


Author: Eric

Eric grew up with a simple childhood. At age 11 a six fingered man murdered his father in front of his eyes, while his mother died defending him from an attack from a sharptooth, then an evil toon dropped a piano from 15 stories onto his brother's head and then on top of all of that while on the job he was brutally shot up and left for dead but was rebuilt as a robotic cop to get his revenge. ...Oooorr maybe he just watched a lot of movies growing up and got really into them. From a young age Eric realized learning things like science, math, people's names etc. took some real effort but could easily remember practically all the dialog/plot details from a random movie he watched on tv years ago. He knew from a young age that he wanted to make movies and never strayed from that. Going to college to get an education in film production and working on movie sets whenever it can be fit into his schedule. Get him into a room full of people he doesn't know and over time you may eventually get him to open up but just mention some movies and he'll talk for hours, never afraid to (respectfully) argue with fellow movie nerds. Now he puts that love and energy toward writing for FilmFad.com.

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  • Steve Crompton

    I’m one of those that lays the vast majority of the blame on Josh Trank. He just had the wrong idea for the film and there is no chemistry between the main characters. I think that in fact is the one area where good direction could have made all the difference, Even with a bad script, he could have easily filmed cut scenes with Reed and Sue and Sue and Johnny to show how much that cared for each other. A loving glances, a smile or a knowing nod from brother to sister can communicate more than a stack of script dialog. (Spielberg and Peter Jackson are masters at this) The F4 movie is completely missing on this aspect.

    It also bares little resemblance to the tone or style of the comics and that just turned off fans all the more. A terrible waste of $120 million dollars and a lot of talent.

    • Eric Pace

      Yeah when I watched the movie I was almost rated it 2 stars (which for me means just a plain old bad movie) but took away an entire star for it’s treatment of Doom moving it to 1 star movie (which for me means the movie offended me on some level).
      It’s amazing how much they messed up on the tone.

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